Go have a look at @MarySpender great video on this subject
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Bandcamp banning ai music is such a big step in the right direction
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Banning something is hardly ever the right move, long term. Do something very human with your music, make AI irrelevant. That’s how we rise to the challenge.
this is why bandcamp is THE GOAT
ā@rachellatour961 I think having platforms that outright disallows the use of ai is actually really healthy in the current landscape. It’s still going to exist elsewhere, but it’s still nice to have a save haven that has a strong opposition to slop.
Besides, ai is never going to be irrelevant becasue it’s cheap and fast to “produce” for corpos (and nesides “human” isn’t a quantative metric). This obviously sucks, but turning a blind eye to it won’t make it go away
āāā@rachellatour961 Unfortunately, that’s not how it works. Artists alone can’t do much against AI “art” since the whole industry is pushing it down our throats, funding it with billions of dollars (Spotify for instance). Something that can solve it effectively on a long term way is state regulation against these companies.
The core problem is good enough is good enough
I like the idea, that as the intertubes fill with AI and bots responding to other bots, us humans will start to abandon it in favor of meatspace again. I just hope that thereās still a good way to discover human music when youāre not already on the inside.
That does not mean that I donāt appreciate channel such as this one. I really love the intersection of music and learning. But maybe thereās another way of sharing your work that will rise to prominence.
It’s just auto-tune on steroids. “Mach Schau!”
The fact that real people listen to it/ enjoy itā¦
Playing music live is really the best strategy. Though I love Mary Spender, I’m not sure that most listeners put a lot of value on proof of work. But during live music we can bring other things to a song. Watch some of the best live performers (one of my favorites is Zaz, the French singer). Watch the way they engage the audience and their emotions. It is just amazing. AI can’t do that. It’s very a human expression.
Absolutely.
Musicians are going to have to accept that money will not be made from selling music any more, unless you are already a major artist. This is likely to lead to a major resurgence of live music, which I think could be a very good thing.
Agree and at some point hopefully we can fight ticket master as well
It never really was.
Musicians that make money
are often involved
(whether they know it or not)
with organised crime
or crooked millionaires.
Being a musician is generally accepting a life of poverty.
There’s an old joke:
What do you call a musician
that doesn’t have a girlfriend?
Homeless.
Well, it’s not really a joke.
I donāt think thatās trueā¦ most people will go out of their way to make sure they are listening to music created by humans
ā@EjayT0602 just like most humans go out of their way to make sure most of their food is ethically made? Yeah .. no. Unfortunately, us real musicians are now the vegans trying to fight against fast food and junk food.
@technicaldeathmetalhead food is an essential and pretty hard to come by ethically, at least without some downsides. Music is something people enjoy, and a huge part of that is knowing that it was made by other humans.
You only have to go online and see the AI backlash, itās everywhere. If you really think the number of people who source their food ethically is equal to the number of people who hate anything AI, you are hugely mistaken.
There was an episode of Star Trek: Voyager from 25 years ago where the holographic Doctor introduced music to an alien species that never heard of it before. They were more into maths than anything else, and soon they wanted him to sing crazy algorithmic based songs. When his programming proved unable to do it, they replaced him with their own holographic singer that couldā¦ it sounded horrid to human earsā¦ but the aliens loved it. The Doctor was quite heartbrokenā¦ for a holographic being anyway.
One of the things humans value in music is the lyrics. Songs have always told stories, whether itās medieval madrigals, art songs, folk, or rap. AI can only imitate human values, so humans will always have the edge in lyrics. Pair them with good, original music and youāll have something people will value and buy. Getting them to hear it in the first place still remains a challenge.
The market for buying music is going to shrink rapidly as streaming continues to rise and as ai music greatly dilutes the pool of available music. Getting heard will become even harder than it already is.
I, almost invariably, compose at least one new piece a day. I work Security and when I get back home, after dark, I either finish the morning’s piece, or I begin one until I doze-off, only to rise four hours later to start it all again.
Composition
This is where 1 am with drawing.. pick it up again each day and draw into right
I just keep making real music
First they came for the developers, then the authors, then the illustrators. Now the musiciansā¦
Then the social workers, municipal employees, volunteers…
@thomasmartin7524 AI is going to do volunteer work? Cool. Hand out food, etc. Good, because we’re going to need all the handouts we can get.
Guess Iāll just keep playing my air guitar
Prove that you not a robot.
That’s motto of modern human.
Show .. originality & creativity. Ai realms can only copy what’s been done.
AI still canāt make music in odd meters šŖ
Next time I’m on the throne pondering lyrics or some other form of world domination, I’ll set up the camera…Thanks for all of your work Mr. Bennett – doing a great service for music!
We can still play music live.
After the musicians and composers, illustrators and authors come the social workers, municipal employees, volunteers…
… Presidents. He watches TV and socials all day to learn what people think. He hallucinates. His training data set was post colonial African dictators.
Keep the “happy accidents” that happen while playing/making music. It keeps music human like the Beatles would often do.š
Embrace imperfection! Now after almost 30 years of auto-tune and making robotic sounding music that’s Pitch Perfect, we need to go into a direction that Embraces the imperfections of humanity instead of trying to make something that is absolutely perfectly aligned to a digital grid. Even working in Daws, in Productions that I work on I always do my best to leave in little mistakes or happy accidents because that’s where the real heart lies.