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Interview with Wayne Coyne of The Flaming Lips, (2003) The Guardian:.
I Required A Freak vs My Humps:.
Interview with Gene Simmons (2017) The Guardian:.
Huey Lewis was temp track for Ghostbusters: "Who Ya Gon na Call? Ghostbusters Unique!" Premiere Publication. June 2004.
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0:00 Introduction.
0:24 Bruce Springsteen Vs. KISS.
1:29 Ghostbusters Vs. Huey Lewis.
3:56 John Williams and Temp music.
4:36 Kylie Minogue Vs. Kaiser Chiefs.
5:50 Pianote.
6:47 Black Eyed Peas Vs. Unwanted Sexual Advances.
7:03 Flaming Lips Vs. Cat Stevens.
9:27 Demi Lovato Vs. Icona Pop.
10:40 Outro.
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📌 4:16 I muddled my Russian composers and said “Tchaikovsky” when I meant “Stravinsky”! Sorry for any confusion 😅😅
David repping the First Of October shirt makes me so happy
It’s so close…
I just noticed! Same here!
The Rite Of Spring was composed by Stravinsky not Tchaikovsky.
Stravinsky actually ripped off Tchaikovsky by copying his piece and title verbatim.
@mebammeNever knew that ! I can’t hear it though .
@mebammeOk , I found a small bassoon part in Figaro .
@Sheree Smazik I believe it’s a joke
It’s correct on screen in the lower left.
Here’s an example of a song lifting from other song. Blur’s “M.O.R.” lifts it’s call and response vocals and melody from David Bowie’s “Boys Keep Swinging”
The theme from that Black Eyed Peas song is actually from Dvořák New World Symphony, so it’s ridiculous that some other group or producer is making money of it. I’m sadly surprised no one mentioned it so far.
I noticed that too, it is one of my favorite orchestral pieces currently.
I was about to post this. Beginning of the 4th movement
I thought the same thing
i thought the same
I wasn’t thinking the same, but I just want to join this “love in” as it seems so wholesome.
My first thought for the “I need a freak” riff, was Snoop Dogg’s “Bring it on”, where the vocals and melody in the beginning, lift directly from this as well.
Gotta love Gene Simmon’s arbitrary reasoning for who he sues and doesn’t sue…
Honestly melodies that are just going up and down a scale should not be considered copying
Which melody was going up and down a scale? Just curious.
According to the judge who ruled over that case, it is considered copying. We are a nation of laws, not people who think the law only applies to others and not to them.
or melodies that are only 2 notes–lookin’ at you Lovato & Icona
@Tysons Accostatell me why a short 2-bar sequence should be protected, especially 40+ years after it was released
Melodies need the same harmony background to sound similar. The springteen one sounds similar but it has a totally different mood. Also, the productions are totally different. Same with Ghostbusters/Lewis and Muzik.
The Kylie/Kaiser Chiefs example is an interesting one, as while Ricky Wilson might be friendly with Kylie, the rest of the band (who co-wrote the song and don’t have Ricky’s TV and radio career) might be tempted by the chance of some income. Especially as it wasn’t as Kylie wrote Padam Padam anyway, so the court case wouldn’t be against her.
I’ve heard “Padam, padam” and “Everyday I love you less and less” many times but somehow never noticed the similarity. I’d say they’re different enough and the plagiarism lawsuit wouldn’t hold.
Padam padam is a french song from Edith Piaf
At some point, it will be impossible to write any simple melody without plagiarizing 50 songs.
Pretty much. If we can assemble a list of every pop (and orchestral) melody ever written, almost any melody you can think of will have some similarities with some melody already written. There’s so much music out there and only so many pitches and rhythms that are familiar in Western music, there’s bound to be countless intersections. Like the Dvorak mentioned above with both the My Humps and I Need A Freak. Hell, I’ve written melodies in my bedroom when I was a kid only to find months or years later something almost note-for-note similar show up on the radio. Pretty sure just a coincidence. There’s only so many melodies that can be written, especially in the tight constraints of Western pop music.
Another great video David. Pink Floyd’s Echoes and Lloyd Webber’s main Phantom of the Opera theme is a classic example. Don’t think you’ve covered it before.
I think it’s just a chromatic walkdown.
and the phantom of the opera itself is a Bach-resurrection…
It is just a chromatic run and whether it’s genuine plagiarism or just similar ideas is a subject of some debate.
The obvious ultimate solution to all of this is to have lawyers write music and then they can just sue each other. The music would suck, but not much more than what we’re currently getting.
4:33, this also happened in Spider-Man 2. Sam Raimi used some of Chris Young’s music from Hellraiser II as temp music during the first reactor scene. He liked it so much that he asked Danny Elfman to essentially copy it, which incensed Elfman and caused them to fall (amongst other things). Raimi then replaced him with Young for Spider-Man 3
It was like a roller coaster trying to decide whether Wayne’s apology was genuine or not
Lol I felt the same, it’s borderline passive-agressive
I found that last example really interesting. I know the Icona Pop track well, so it was almost eerie to hear something that sounds something so similar not just in melody (or, let’s be honest, lack thereof) but also in instrumentation.
The thing about the Demi Lovato song is that they can’t really tell it’s copying the other one because in that genre of music everything sounds so similar that they can’t tell, and most listeners don’t care anyway, as long as they can dance to it.
I was a Radio DJ when the first three records mentioned here were released, and had these same thoughts at the time! David, I’m guessing that you compose music. Do you find it difficult to write a melody or a chord pattern and not feel that you may have heard it somewhere before, since every possible combination of the 12-tone musical scale we use had already been used sometimes in the last several hundred years?
I just wanted to say thank you. I’ve learned quite a bit from your videos. And several of them have sparked ideas for songs.
I did an internship last year where we would analyse the defendent and claimant songs in lawsuits. It makes you realise the importance of musicologists for the cases, as many of the artists would try to sue for basic rhythmic patterns or very predictable melodies. The Marvin Gaye/Ed Sheeran lawsuit shows this, as Gaye’s estate were trying to sue for using a basic chord pattern and having a similar feel.
Although some songs are obviously copying others, I think that most of it is accidental copying by taking maybe a bit too much inspiration from the songs on your playlist.